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Vespa Smallframe Engine Removal Guide

09/06/2009

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Embarking on a Vespa smallframe engine strip-down and rebuild is a rewarding endeavour for any enthusiast. However, before you can delve into the intricacies of the engine's internals, the crucial first step is to safely and correctly remove it from the scooter's frame. This process, while seemingly straightforward, requires careful attention to detail and the right tools to avoid damage and ensure a smooth reassembly. This guide will walk you through the essential steps, from gathering your tools to the final engine separation.

Should you upgrade the Vespa S 125?
Although, the stock brakes are one of the features that you might want to upgrade. Hopefully, it will be upgraded to the next version when it is released with new features and upgrades. The Vespa S 125 is a great scooter for daily commuting as it is equipped with low fuel consumption.
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Essential Tools for Engine Removal

Before you even think about touching a spanner, ensure you have the necessary equipment. While a standard toolkit will cover many bases, a few specialist items are highly recommended for a Vespa smallframe engine removal. Having these at hand will make the process significantly easier and less prone to error.

Recommended Tool List:

  • Vespa smallframe Flywheel removal tool
  • Vespa smallframe Clutch removal tool
  • External Circlip pliers
  • Internal circlip pliers
  • Permanent marker pen
  • Numerous plastic sandwich bags (for organisation)
  • Petrol (gasoline) or white spirit (for cleaning)
  • Two-stroke oil
  • Gear oil
  • Pen and paper (for notes and sketches)
  • Containers for draining fuel and old gear oil
  • Optional: Vespa clutch spring compressor (or a DIY alternative)

Step-by-Step Engine Removal Process

1. Draining Fluids and Initial Preparations

Safety and cleanliness are paramount. Begin by draining all the oil from the engine. Locate the oil drain bolt underneath the engine and use a suitable container to catch the old gear oil. Proper disposal of used oil is essential; avoid pouring it down drains.

Next, lift the seat and proceed to undo the bolts securing the petrol tank. The seat post typically requires a 15mm spanner, while the tank bolts are usually 11mm. Once the tank is unbolted, remove the storage bucket to gain better access.

2. Disconnecting Fuel and Control Lines

Ensure the petrol tap is in the 'Off' position. Carefully pull the fuel hose off the carburettor. There's no need to worry about significant fuel loss if the tap is off, beyond what's in the hose itself. Remember to slide the retaining clip up the hose first. To keep things organised, place this clip, the seat post, and all tank bolts into a labelled sandwich bag. Consistent labelling of components is key to a stress-free reassembly.

To remove the tank, you'll need to block the fuel hose. A bung or even a screw will suffice. Crucially, turn the petrol tap to the 'On' position before lifting the tank out. This allows any residual fuel to drain into your container. Carefully lift the tank away.

3. Removing the Carburettor

The carburettor needs to be disconnected next. First, detach the choke cable from its lever by lifting the hook. Then, disconnect the throttle cable from the carburettor by undoing the small brass cable clamp and sliding the cable through the adjuster. This tiny clamp is easily lost, so either screw it back onto the cable or place it in a dedicated bag.

The carburettor is typically held in place by a ring with a large bolt. This ring often has a screwdriver slot at the top and a hex shape on the shaft. Use a spanner to initially loosen the ring, as it can be tight. Once loose, switch to a screwdriver for easier manipulation. Gently shimmy the carburettor off the manifold. Be cautious, as carburettors are delicate components. You'll also notice a rubber air bellows at the manifold; this needs to be pushed out of its hole so it doesn't obstruct the engine when it drops.

4. Addressing the Exhaust System

The approach to the exhaust depends on the type fitted. Standard box-type exhausts often don't impede engine removal and can be left in place. However, for ET3, SS50, SS90, or most aftermarket performance exhausts, it's advisable to remove the silencer. The expansion chamber on these systems can obstruct other components.

Fortunately, the expansion chamber can usually be separated from the manifold pipe. Undo the 17mm bolt that secures the silencer to the swingarm. The silencer will either slide off the loosened bolt or require complete bolt removal. Deflating the rear tyre can sometimes make this easier. Securely store the 17mm bolt or thread it back into the swingarm.

5. Removing the Rear Wheel (Optional but Recommended)

Removing the rear wheel can significantly improve access to various components, including the rear brake cable, and allows the engine to drop more freely at the rear. If you choose to remove the wheel, undo the five rim bolts, keeping the hub in place.

Before proceeding, lever off the hub centre cap and ensure the hub nut can be undone. You must first remove the split pin. If the hub nut is seized, it's far easier to tackle this with the wheel still on the scooter. Have someone apply the rear brake, or place a heavy object on the brake pedal. An impact wrench is ideal, or you can use a hammer drill in reverse with the hammer action engaged, fitted with a 22mm socket. Alternatively, a standard wrench and a hammer can be effective; apply turning force with the wrench while striking the centre of the hub nut with a hammer a few times. This 'hammering' technique is invaluable for seized fasteners throughout the rebuild.

Once the hub nut is loose, leave it partially threaded to retain the hub. If you've removed the rear wheel, you'll need to support the scooter. A sturdy milk crate or similar object can be used. For easier access to components, consider laying the scooter on its side, perhaps with a protective blanket to prevent paint damage if you wish to preserve the finish.

6. Disconnecting Control Cables and Electrical Connections

With the engine accessible, it's time to disconnect all control cables and electrical connections linking the frame to the engine.

Control Cables:

The cable clamps for the clutch and gear change typically have an 8mm hex head shell and a 7mm hex head bolt. This design can be frustrating, so consider replacing the 7mm bolts with ones that accept a screwdriver or Allen key for easier adjustment later.

To remove the gear cables, you'll need to access the gear selector cover. Inside, you'll see how the cables are routed. If your Vespa has original cable outers, they might be colour-coded. If not, or if the colours have faded, it's crucial to mark each cable before removal. Note which cable goes to which side of the selector mechanism to avoid incorrect reassembly and reversed gears.

Electrical Connections:

Most electrical connections are found in a small plastic junction box bolted to the swingarm. Remove the cover to reveal the wiring. Note the routing and colour coding of the wires. On some models, wires are colour-matched, but age and previous work can complicate this.

Leave the loose wires hanging from the engine. Screw the frame-side wires back into the junction box, allowing it to hang freely. The next steps depend on your scooter's ignition system:

  • Points Ignition: On models with points ignition, all wires are typically on one side, allowing for straightforward engine removal.
  • Electronic Ignition (e.g., ET3, 100 Sport, PK): If your scooter has electronic ignition, the CDI box is usually located in the glovebox cowl on the opposite side of the bike. You'll need to disconnect all low-tension (LT) wires from the CDI box, noting their original positions. These often have spade connectors. The high-tension (HT) spark plug lead can sometimes be unscrewed, but if not, you may need to carefully cut the protective plastic binding the HT and LT wires and remove the HT lead from the spark plug, leaving it connected to the plug cap for now.

7. Final Engine Separation

Once all electrical and cable connections are free, the engine is ready for removal.

At the front, the engine is secured by a single long bolt passing through the frame and swingarm. If the scooter was laid on its side, it might be easier to temporarily upright it using a milk crate or similar support. Undo the nut and gently tap the bolt through with a hammer. As you're ready to support the engine's weight, carefully pull the bolt out from the other side to free the engine at the front.

At the rear, you have a choice: either undo the shock absorber bolt at the top (under the seat) or remove the bolt at the bottom. If you plan to clean or replace the shock absorber, removing it at the top is often more convenient.

With the front and rear mounting points released, the engine is now separated from the scooter. Carefully manoeuvre it out of the frame, ensuring you don't snag any remaining components. You now have the engine free and ready for its strip-down and rebuild.

Frequently Asked Questions

Q1: What are the most common mistakes when removing a Vespa engine?

A1: Common errors include not draining fluids properly, losing small parts due to poor organisation, forcing components that are still connected, and damaging wiring or cables. Meticulous organisation using labelled bags is crucial.

Q2: Do I need to remove the rear wheel?

A2: While not strictly mandatory in all cases, removing the rear wheel significantly improves access to rear engine mounts and cables, making the process considerably easier and safer. It's highly recommended.

Q3: How do I deal with seized bolts or nuts?

A3: Penetrating oil, patience, and the right tools are key. The 'hammering' technique described for the hub nut can be effective for other seized fasteners. Ensure you use the correct size socket and apply force carefully to avoid stripping the bolt head.

Q4: Is it easier to do this with the scooter on a stand or on its side?

A4: Laying the scooter on its side, with appropriate protection, often provides better access to the underside and rear of the engine, making cable and electrical disconnections simpler. However, uprighting it for the final front bolt removal might be easier for some.

Q5: What if my wiring colours don't match?

A5: This is common due to age and previous repairs. Rely on the routing and connector types. If unsure, take clear photographs before disconnecting anything. It's always best to mark wires if there's any ambiguity.

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