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Understanding Your Brakes After a New Fitment

22/09/2022

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Navigating the world of auto repairs can often feel like trudging through a swamp of misconceptions, especially when it comes to brake servicing. But fear not, we're here to clear the fog and debunk the myths! We've all been there: you’ve just invested in a fresh set of brake pads, perhaps even new discs, and suddenly your car sounds or feels different. Is this normal, or has something gone awry? This guide is designed to put you back in the driver's seat of your auto knowledge, disputing common misunderstandings after a brake service repair.

How do I know if my brake pads are worn out?
Here are some common signs to look out for: Worn-out brake pads can be caused by a variety of factors, including: Mileage: Brake pads wear out over time due to friction and heat generated during braking. Driving habits: Aggressive driving, such as rapid acceleration and braking, can cause brake pads to wear out faster.

To help illustrate these points, we've drawn upon the extensive experience of our in-house expert, Brian Pham, our Support Team Lead, who’s dealt with a multitude of concerns, queries, and, yes, misconceptions that customers have post-brake repair. Understanding what to expect after new brakes are installed is crucial for your peace of mind and, more importantly, for your safety on the road. Let’s dive into the most common post-repair occurrences and separate fact from fiction.

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The Bedding-In Process: Why New Brakes Can Be Noisy

If you've recently had your brakes replaced and you're noticing unusual noises, such as squeaking or rubbing, don't be alarmed just yet. It's incredibly common to hear these sounds, and even experience a burning smell, after getting new brakes. This is usually nothing to worry about and is a normal part of the process known as 'bedding-in' or 'curing'.

New brake pads are initially abrasive and often coated with protective elements or release agents from the manufacturing process. When these new pads are first introduced to the brake disc, the friction generated as they begin to conform to the disc's surface can cause some temporary noise. Imagine two new, perfectly flat surfaces meeting – they need to wear into each other to create the optimal contact patch. This initial friction can manifest as a high-pitched squeal or a low rub, especially during light braking.

The bedding process is vital for optimal brake performance. It involves a controlled wearing-in of the new pads to the existing or new discs, creating a thin, even layer of friction material transferred from the pad to the disc surface. This 'transfer layer' is what truly optimises braking efficiency and reduces noise in the long run. Until this layer is properly established, the interaction between the pad and disc can be less smooth, leading to the noises you hear.

Temporary Noises: What's Normal?

Beyond the bedding process, other factors can contribute to temporary brake noise:

  • Moisture-Related Noise: Overnight condensation, especially in humid conditions or after rain, can lead to a thin layer of surface rust forming on your brake rotors. This rust is harmless and will cause a temporary grinding or squeaking noise during your first few drives of the day. However, after a few braking instances, the rust is quickly worn off by the pads, and the noise should cease entirely. This is a very common phenomenon and not a sign of a problem.
  • Noise from Heavy Use: Situations of heavy brake usage, such as stop-and-go traffic, driving down long descents, or extended trips, can cause your brakes to heat up significantly. This elevated temperature can lead to squeaking or chattering noises. The materials in the brake pads and discs expand and contract with heat, which can temporarily alter their interaction. If possible, allowing your brakes to cool down during these situations by driving less aggressively or taking breaks can prevent overheating, which can also lead to more serious problems like warped rotors.

The noises from new brakes are usually normal and should subside after a week or approximately 150 miles of driving. As Patrick Haley, our Operations Manager, explains, 'When new brakes are installed, it's not uncommon for drivers to experience some squeaking noise and, in some cases, a burning smell or even smoke emanating from the brakes. Rest assured, this is a normal occurrence and usually not a cause for alarm. The primary reason behind the squeaking sound is the abrasiveness of new brake pads and the protective coating they come with. This composition is likely to create some noise during its initial usage. This noise should diminish as you drive and the brake pads wear in, a phase often referred to as the 'bedding process.' Typically, after approximately 350 miles of driving, the bedding-in process should be complete, and any squeaking noise should've ceased. If the symptoms persist beyond this mileage, it may indicate another issue and it's recommended to reach out for further assistance. So, if you're hearing these noises after a recent brake service, keep calm and carry on driving normally, while keeping an ear out for any persistent sounds.'

When to Seek Professional Advice

While some noise is normal, there are certain sounds and symptoms that you shouldn't ignore, as they can indicate more serious underlying issues:

  • Grinding or metal-to-metal sounds: These are distinct from squeaking and can indicate severe problems, like your brake pads being completely worn out, allowing the metal backing plates to rub directly against the brake disc. This requires immediate attention.
  • Vibrations or pulsating when you apply the brakes: These could be a sign of warped rotors, which require immediate attention as they compromise braking effectiveness and comfort.
  • Low pedal pressure: If your brake pedal feels unusually soft or sinks all the way to the floor, it could indicate a serious problem with your brake system, such as a faulty master cylinder or a fluid leak.

As Brian Pham wisely puts it, 'Remember, your brakes are vital for your safety. So while some noise is normal, don't ignore sounds that persist or any changes in your brake's performance. As I told our customer, it's always better to reach out to a professional if you're in doubt. After our conversation, the customer felt much better informed and confident about their brake situation. And that's our goal here - to make sure you're safe and comfortable on the road.'

Decoding Vibrations and Shaking After Brake Work

When you experience shaking or vibrations through the pedal or steering wheel after brake repairs, the most common culprit is your vehicle's rotors. More specifically, these symptoms often arise due to warped rotors or discs that have developed uneven wear patterns, known as grooves.

A brake disc that's warped or distorted creates an uneven surface. This can happen due to excessive heat, improper installation, or even severe braking habits that cause hot spots on the disc. As your brake pads clamp down on these irregularities during braking, they cause a distinct vibration, shaking, or pulsating sensation that you can feel through the brake pedal and sometimes the steering wheel. Think of it like trying to hold a spinning top that's off-balance – the unsteady motion directly translates into an unsteady feel in your vehicle.

The most effective solution for this issue is to install a new set of rotors for your vehicle. These new rotors will provide a perfectly smooth, clean surface for your brake pads to interact with, eliminating the shaking or vibrations you've been experiencing. While some garages might offer to 'skim' or 'resurface' rotors to remove minor imperfections, this is often a temporary fix and can thin the rotor, making it more susceptible to future warping. Replacing them outright is generally the most reliable and safest long-term solution.

It's crucial to replace the rotors as soon as possible to prevent further damage to your newly installed brake pads. Delaying the replacement might exacerbate the issue, resulting in not just discomfort while driving, but potential accelerated wear and damage to your entire brake system. Always prioritise safety, and if you're noticing any unusual symptoms post-repair, reach out to your service provider immediately.

The Enigma of Brake Dust

A common observation after new brake pads are fitted is an increased amount of dark dust accumulating on your wheels. A customer once contacted us, stating: 'There's dust build-up on my wheels, I think it's coming from my brakes. It happened after the technician replaced them.' Brake dust is indeed a common occurrence, especially with new brake pads, and it's important to understand why it happens and how it can be managed.

When new brake pads are installed, they undergo a curing process, as mentioned earlier. As they heat up during braking, the metallic particles and other compounds in the pads gain a static charge as they wear off the pad's surface. This causes the dark, metallic dust that readily sticks to your vehicle's wheels and other parts. This dust differs from the usual road dirt that your wheels pick up during normal driving; it's darker, finer-grained, and often appears reddish-brown or black in colour, indicating its metallic content.

The brake dust is primarily made up of iron, which comes from your brake disc or rotor, combined with friction material from the pads. The dust appears when the brake pads contact the brake rotor, causing microscopic erosion of both surfaces. Most automotive brake pads, particularly semi-metallic compounds, consist of steel fibre mixed with other additives and a binding resin. As these materials abrade during braking, they create this fine particulate matter.

It's important to note that brake dust isn't an indication of your brakes 'dying' or 'wearing out' prematurely. It's simply a byproduct of your brakes working hard to bring you to a stop. Over time, as your new brake pads cure completely and the bedding-in process finishes, they will harden and give off less residue and brake dust. However, brake dust can be unsightly, and if left unattended, it can adhere strongly to surfaces and potentially damage brake hardware and expensive wheels due to its corrosive nature. Therefore, it's recommended to clean your wheels regularly to prevent brake dust from accumulating. Some car care products are specifically meant for cleaning your brakes and wheels, making this task easier.

Addressing Burning Smells Post-Replacement

Another common query we receive is similar to this customer's concern: 'I smell like something is burning after I hit my brakes, is there a problem? I called you guys to fix the problem with my brakes, did you make it worse?' One crucial point to understand is that the manifestation of a burning smell after new brakes have been installed is quite common. Much like the typical sounds you may hear — the squeaking or occasional smoke – the odour is usually a normal part of the brake adjustment process.

The cause of this burning smell is often linked to the curing process of the resin in your new brake pads. Think of this curing process as similar to 'breaking in' a new pair of shoes. Initially, there's a bit of discomfort, some unusual sounds, and, in the case of your brakes, an uncommon smell. But over time, the shoes become comfortable, and the unusual occurrences dissipate.

Brake pads are made up of a variety of materials, such as metal shavings, rubber compounds, and what we call a binding resin. This resin plays a vital role in holding all the components together and making sure your brake pad works as it should. When we put in new brake pads and you start using your vehicle, the heat from the friction of stopping causes this resin to cure, or essentially undergo a transformation due to heat. This makes it stronger and better suited for the job. It's during this curing process that you might notice a bit of a burning smell. This is the organic compounds in the resin off-gassing as they heat up and solidify into their final, durable form.

As Brian Pham highlights, 'It's important to note, though, that this smell should go away after a while. Generally, after a few dozen stops, the brake pads should have adjusted to their role, and the smell should subside. However, if you continue to notice the smell after this period, it might indicate there's something else going on that needs our attention, such as a sticking brake caliper or an issue with the disc.'

Understanding a Soft Brake Pedal or Pedal Sink

A common concern that customers often bring up, sometimes weeks or even months after a brake job, is a change in the feel of their brake pedal. This can range from a softer-than-usual pedal to a pedal that sinks all the way to the floor. While less common immediately after a pad replacement, if it occurs, it's a symptom that demands immediate attention.

The most common cause for this issue is a problem with the master cylinder. The brake master cylinder is the heart of your vehicle's hydraulic braking system. When you press the brake pedal, it pushes a piston (or pistons) inside the master cylinder, which then compresses the brake fluid. This hydraulic pressure is then transmitted through the brake lines to the calipers (or wheel cylinders in drum brakes), causing the brake pads to clamp onto the discs and slow the vehicle.

If your master cylinder doesn't work properly, or only works occasionally, you're going to lose braking power. This can happen if internal seals within the master cylinder wear out, allowing brake fluid to bypass the pistons rather than being compressed. Without that pressure, you won't feel the usual firm resistance when you press the brake pedal, and it could sink all the way to the floor. As Brian Pham explains, 'When the master cylinder is functioning correctly, you'll typically feel a firm resistance when you press the brake pedal. This is due to the hydraulic pressure in the brake lines pushing back against your foot. However, if the master cylinder develops a problem, it can disrupt this process, leading to changes in pedal feel.'

A soft pedal or a pedal that sinks can also indicate other serious issues, such as a significant brake fluid leak somewhere in the system, or air trapped within the brake lines. Air in the lines is compressible, unlike brake fluid, leading to a spongy pedal feel. Regardless of the cause, if the master cylinder fails to compress the brake fluid effectively or inconsistently does so, your brake system will lose the required pressure to engage the brakes properly. This loss of hydraulic pressure can manifest as a soft pedal feel or, in extreme cases, the brake pedal sinking to the floor, posing a significant safety risk.

The recommended course of action for a soft pedal or sinking pedal is to have a professional mechanic inspect and likely replace the brake master cylinder or diagnose any other underlying issues immediately. This is not a symptom to ignore, as it directly impacts your ability to stop the vehicle safely.

Normal vs. Abnormal Post-Brake Repair Symptoms

SymptomLikely Cause (Normal)When to Worry (Abnormal)Action Recommended
Squeaking NoiseNew pad bedding-in, surface rust, light use.Persistent, loud squealing after 350 miles; grinding/metal-on-metal sounds.Monitor for normal sounds. Seek professional check for abnormal or persistent noise.
Rubbing NoiseNew pad bedding-in, minor friction.Loud, consistent rubbing; accompanied by vibrations.Monitor for normal sounds. Seek professional check if persistent or worsens.
Burning SmellResin curing in new pads.Strong, persistent smell after a few dozen stops; accompanied by smoke from wheels.Should dissipate quickly. Seek professional check if persistent.
Brake DustNormal wear of new friction materials.Excessive, rapid build-up; accompanied by poor braking performance.Clean wheels regularly. No immediate action needed for normal dust.
Vibrations/ShakingMinor disc run-out during bedding (rarely).Consistent pulsating/shaking through pedal/steering wheel, especially during braking.Typically indicates warped rotors. Immediate professional inspection/replacement of rotors.
Soft Pedal FeelSlight change during initial bedding (rare and subtle).Pedal feels spongy, sinks to floor, or requires excessive force.Immediate professional inspection for master cylinder issue, fluid leak, or air in lines.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

Q: How long does it take for new brake pads to 'bed in'?

A: The bedding-in process typically takes between 150 to 350 miles of normal driving, depending on your driving style and the type of brake pads. During this period, you should perform gentle, progressive stops to allow the pads to conform to the discs properly.

Q: Is it normal for new brakes to smoke?

A: A small amount of smoke, often accompanied by a burning smell, can be normal during the initial bedding-in process. This is the protective coatings and resins on the new pads burning off due to heat. However, excessive smoke or smoke that persists after the first few drives is not normal and should be checked by a professional.

Q: Why do my brakes feel different after a replacement?

A: A slight change in pedal feel is normal as the new pads settle in. They might feel a bit 'grabby' initially or require a slightly different pedal pressure. However, a dramatically soft pedal, a pedal that sinks to the floor, or a very hard pedal could indicate a problem that requires professional attention.

Q: Can new brakes cause my steering wheel to shake?

A: If your steering wheel shakes when you apply the brakes after a repair, it typically indicates an issue with your brake discs, most commonly that they are warped. While new pads might temporarily highlight an existing disc issue, the solution is usually to replace the discs.

Q: Do I need to replace my discs when I get new pads?

A: Not always, but it's highly recommended, especially if your old discs show signs of wear, deep grooves, or warping. New pads on old, worn discs may not perform optimally and can lead to noise or vibrations. For optimal performance and safety, replacing both pads and discs simultaneously is often the best practice.

Final Words

Brakes are a critical safety feature of your vehicle, so it's natural to be concerned when something seems off. The symptoms and experiences we've discussed throughout this article — from noise to brake dust, from vibrations to burning smells, or even a soft brake pedal — can certainly be disconcerting, especially after a recent brake repair. However, we hope this guide has helped you understand that many of these occurrences are quite normal and typically resolve themselves over time as your new brake components settle in.

Remember, while this guide provides a solid foundation of knowledge, there's no substitute for the advice of a professional mechanic who can assess your specific situation. Your safety on the road is paramount. If you are ever in doubt about the performance or condition of your brakes, do not hesitate to reach out for professional help. Trust your instincts and ensure your vehicle is always in top condition. Drive safely!

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